Questions, answered straight.

What PermitLogic does for a contracting business, what Sully does for a home project, what each costs, and what neither will ever claim to do.

Sully, the AI guide in the Sully app, illustrated

About PermitLogic and Sully

What are PermitLogic and Sully?

PermitLogic is the CRM for contractors: estimates with a price check, jobs, crews, invoices and payments. Ask PermitLogic, the assistant built into every plan, explains the numbers from your own records. Sully is our app for homeowners and DIYers: it plans a project step by step, builds the materials list, tracks the budget and handles the permit side, starting with your town's own published rules.

Who is Sully?

Sully is the app's AI guide, a plain-spoken veteran-contractor character. Sully is not a real person, and never claims to have built, inspected or approved anything. Think of Sully as a patient guide who reads the rules with you and is honest about what he couldn't find.

Who makes them?

TriLumen Systems, an independent software company in northeastern Pennsylvania. Our founder spent years in home-repair contracting and fourteen more running systems for a large retailer, and built the tools he wanted in the truck and in the office. More about us.

Who is it for?

Homeowners and DIYers planning projects like decks, fences, sheds, roofs, bathrooms and electrical work; landlords and small flippers juggling several properties; and contractors, through PermitLogic Professional, with Enterprise for larger teams.

Coverage and accuracy

Does it work where I live?

Sully is designed for any U.S. town. Sully uses the same research ladder everywhere: your town first, then the county, then the state, then the model code. Results depend on what your town publishes online. Some towns publish a lot, some very little.

Is Sully the final word on my permit?

No. Your local permit office decides. Sully helps you understand the published rules, prepare a complete application and know who to ask. It doesn't replace the office, an engineer or an attorney.

Where do the rules in my report come from?

Sully reads your town's official site, permit, fee, code and zoning pages first, then the county, then the state, then the model code. Every rule is labeled with its source: Town, County, State or Model code, with a quote or paraphrase. Model code text is linked or paraphrased, never pasted.

What happens when Sully can't find a rule?

The report says so plainly. It may show a county or state rule, clearly labeled, and suggests calling the office, with the questions to ask. We'd rather tell you about a gap than fill it with a confident guess.

How do you check phone numbers and fees?

Phone numbers, fees and quotes in your report are checked against the pages Sully actually read, so you can see where each one came from. If your town hasn't published a fee, the report says so.

Can I give Sully my own links?

Yes. If you have a link to your town's ordinance, a handout, or a page the office pointed you to, paste it in. Sully reads your links first.

What if a rule looks wrong?

Every rule has a "this looks wrong" button so you can flag it. Treat a flagged rule as one to confirm with your permit office before you rely on it.

Is this legal or engineering advice?

No. Sully gives general guidance. For structural work, gas and major electrical work, talk to licensed professionals. Some towns require them.

The permit report

What's in a permit report?

A verdict (required, likely, unclear or not required), the rules grouped by source with labels and quotes, fees, who to call, the town's form when it's posted, ordered steps, common rejection reasons, and a plain note on whether to hire a pro.

How does Sully ask about my project?

One question at a time, and only the questions that change the answer: what you're building, where, how big, and the details that matter for that project type. You can start from a photo of a rough sketch.

What does the sketch feature do?

Photograph a rough sketch, even on a napkin, and Sully turns it into a clean conceptual schematic with your dimensions and any missing ones called out. It's conceptual, not a survey or a stamped drawing.

Does the report work for any project?

Reports work for common residential projects: decks, fences, sheds, roofs, bathrooms, basements, electrical, plumbing, windows and doors, solar, pools and additions, and more. See our project guides.

Materials list and filing packet

How is the materials list sized?

Only from details you've confirmed. Each line shows the quantity, the waste allowance and the assumptions behind it. Missing measurements are called out instead of guessed.

What's a waste allowance?

Extra material to cover offcuts, defects and mistakes. Our waste allowance guide explains typical ranges.

Can I shop from the list?

A retailer picker turns each item into a plain store search at the retailer you choose. Today those are ordinary search links. If we ever join a retailer's affiliate program, the disclosure will sit right next to the links. See our affiliate disclosure.

What's in the filing packet?

A PDF with a cover sheet, your project details, the rules that apply with their sources, and a checklist of what your office asks for, plus a link to the town's real form when it's posted. You can email it to the office from the app.

Is the filing packet a permit?

No. It organizes what the office asks for so your application is complete. Your permit office reviews it and decides.

Pricing and plans

How much will it cost?

Sully Stamp is $14.99 per project. Sully Pro is $14.99 a month for all your projects, with a one-week free trial and up to 6 reports a month. PermitLogic Professional for contractors is $100 a month or $1,000 a year, Enterprise is $399 a month or $3,990 a year, and Enterprise Plus is $799 a month or $7,990 a year. See pricing.

What does a Sully Stamp include?

One project's full permit report, materials list and filing packet, plus denial recovery for that project.

What does Sully Pro include?

Reports, materials lists and filing packets for all your projects, up to 6 reports a month, plus denial recovery on every project.

Is there a plan for contractors?

PermitLogic Professional for contractors is $100 a month or $1,000 a year. It's a complete CRM for one person: leads, estimates and change orders clients sign from a link, invoices with online payments, permits and inspections, purchasing, service calls and job costing, price check, business numbers, starter price books and the iPhone app, with 60 permit reports a month. See what's in it.

Is there a plan for larger teams?

Enterprise starts at $399 a month. It includes everything in Professional, plus five users, team roles, crew clock-in, commissions and payroll export, fleet, company reports, sign-in at yourcompany.permitlogicai.com, Slack and Teams, the API, and export of everything. Enterprise Plus adds more users, more reports, sign-in at your own web address and no 1% fee on online payments. See Enterprise or email hello@permitlogicai.com.

What if my permit application is denied?

Denial recovery is included with a Sully Stamp or Sully Pro. Take a photo of the denial letter or paste its text, and Sully explains each reason, the fix and the steps to resubmit, using your letter and your town's own sources.

PermitLogic for contractors

Does the AI set my prices?

No. Price check suggests a price from your own past jobs, and you decide. Ask PermitLogic, the built-in assistant, only explains numbers worked out from your records. It never makes up a price.

Who can see my overhead and profit?

Owners and admins. Business numbers, overhead and ad spend are private to them. Salespeople who write estimates see the price check on their estimates.

Do I need past jobs for the price check?

It works better with history, and it gets sharper as you send estimates, mark them won or lost, and log job costs. On day one, a starter price book for your trade gives you typical U.S. prices to start from.

Is there an iPhone app?

PermitLogic, yes: it's on the App Store for iPhone, iPad and foldables, including iPhone Duo. Sully is on the App Store too, and runs on the web at sully.permitlogicai.com.

Hire a pro

Can Sully connect me with a contractor?

Hire a pro lets you choose to connect with professionals from inside the app, and you see what is shared first. We have no pro-matching partners today. If we add them in the future, we may earn a fee when you connect with a pro through them, and we'll disclose it right there. A fee would never change what your report says.

Will my information be shared?

Only if you ask to connect with a pro, and only after you see what will be shared and agree. Details are in our privacy policy.

Availability and account

When can I get it?

Now. Sully is on the App Store for iPhone and on the web at sully.permitlogicai.com.

Is there an Android or web version?

Sully works in your web browser on any device. An Android app is not planned yet.

How do I sign in?

The app supports Sign in with Apple and Google sign-in to save your projects.

Can I delete my account?

Yes. In the app, go to Home, tap Settings, then tap Delete account and data. It deletes your projects and data. Details are on our support page.

How do I contact you?

Email hello@permitlogicai.com, or write to TriLumen Systems, PO Box 4242, Scranton, PA 18505. A person reads every message.

Get Sully on your iPhone.

Sully is on the App Store for iPhone. It also runs in your browser at sully.permitlogicai.com, with the same account.